Today's guest is Joe Bettles - second generation restaurant owner and a world class nice guy. Joe and Grant talk about seeing restaurant sales go down 90%, the risk of accepting PPP money, alternative funding models in use globally, and what the future or restaurant dining may look like.

Kono's Cafe is the crown jewel of the San Diego beachfront breakfast scene, with a menu (and prices) virtually unchanged since 1992 - the type of place where the person taking your order remembers your last order. Joe discusses the rapid changes needed to evolve from an old fashioned, cash only, 99% dine-in cafe to takeout only, no cash, 100% takeout - and how those changes were made almost overnight. Oh, and he vents about meal delivery services delivering zero profits to small, independent restaurants.